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Re: Some liquid stuff I've been messing with lately
« Reply #10 on: July 14, 2010, 03:37:53 PM »

Haha true that Tiny... I don't know how many times I've tried to tell people part of my style was formulated from what you said in these two videos right at the end of the first one and then the second one:
Tiny Love floasis interview Part 5


Tiny Love floasis interview Part6


And these videos have so little views for as long as they've been up, which goes to show you people watch all the wrong stuff haha... but yeah I watched and listened you're explanation of caracter digits and that helped me understand another side. B/c before I was doing shapes more square like in geometric liquid back in like 2006. But this video helped me expand. I know a lot of people have bitten your style but that was never my intention. If I was just copying mindlessly I would have done your shapes like the yin and yang. Instead I made up my own way and tried to build off of what you said b/c you were talking about the future and how we could push into the future.
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Re: Some liquid stuff I've been messing with lately
« Reply #11 on: July 14, 2010, 11:06:38 PM »

Ya man keep going with this style that you have now and expand there is so much out there is like a biolagical computer language at the tip of your fingers , computers are less inteligent than this thing that we have ............Soul Language
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Re: Some liquid stuff I've been messing with lately
« Reply #12 on: July 15, 2010, 02:58:20 PM »

^ Yeah I totally think about like cyborgs when I'm coming up with some of my stuff. That first mask was inspired by this haha  *fp




liquid: man u still doin that rookie thing, leading way too much with the right hand, but not just that, the 'following' left hand isn't even doing the same path as the right! If u look at 0:10 when u bust into some handflow, the right hand is carving out pathways much bigger and fuller than the left that 'follows'. The left is connected via hand waves, but the pathways are really weak (compared to the right).

Orbital liquid fail haha... this is definitely my back, back, back-up liquid style. My linear liquid muscle memory totally destroys my lines. I haven't been able to strike a balance yet.

Footwork is looking better, but a good amount of it appears mechanical or pre-programmed to my eyes. Its not off-beat, but im not seeing much expression in it. Unless you are actually a robot on the inside. But hey, u appear stable/balanced on your feet.

i liked the beginning and final 3 seconds because there was some degree of loose-ness/feeling in your movement. Continue to explore and integrate feeling bro.
Your pelvis is concrete in this clip. Not moving at all except for a micro second.

The super tech robotic stuff that I've pounded into my muscle memory once again has ruined this style. I still try and keep it around though... Birdman groove clip in the future? Maybe haha. I'll show how I dance without any tech, but seriously I only use that when i don't want to be a massive attention whore on the dancefloor.

Dude i'll say it before and i'll say it again... classes help. A lot. Especially for somebody who from what i understand is somewhat isolated from the scene?

meh I don't understand where people get all this money for their dance hobby.... traveling, classes, expensive equipment etc...

I'm honestly ghetto as crap when it comes to this. Microwave a hotdog and go practice without any aircondition in 100 degree heat in a small corner were I haven't piled a bunch of junk up haha.  Then go out and dance at the worst places possible with terrible music and everybody's drunk and wants to fight me. I honestly feel like I'd lose my edge if I went and did something cushy and had like some actual support.
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Re: Some liquid stuff I've been messing with lately
« Reply #13 on: July 18, 2010, 01:08:29 PM »

Asher, if you're so passionate about these dances, I don't understand why you don't take the plunge and just travel to a meet-up.  Aside from DEMF, the Liquid Conference is going to be about as good an opportunity as you'll ever get.  And if you're willing to commit, you'll discover two things.  One, the people that make up our community are much nicer and more laid back than their e-personalities will ever give them credit for.  Without question, they are some of the most open, generous, and hospitable people I've ever met.  For instance, Kevin puts a good number of people up at his home each year so they can afford to attend DEMF.  The second thing is that one day of experience with all the dancers in our community is more educational and inspirational than all the information and experience you can process by practicing and studying alone at the highest level for 6 months to a year.  Seeing as I live in the same town, believe me when I say I wish it wasn't true, but you can only learn so much about a performing art on the internet.  Feeling, stage presence, proper viewing angles, vibe, tone, setting, the list goes on...there are so many things that just don't translate well on film.

And I'll even say that in your defense, Lucas doesn't have the foggiest idea what kind of an ordeal it can be for people not located in metropolitan northeast/midwest to participate.  But then in Lucas' defense, seven years ago a 20 year old me wanted to come up to Baltimore during my spring break and learn from whoever was around.  Annoying as I was (am), Lucas and Little Phil played host to me, a person they didn't really know at all, the entire week.  Lucas even took me out on my 21st birthday which was in the middle of the work week.  It was a really nice gesture that I never forgot.  Just saying, don't misinterpret him talking shit.  I have no doubt he'd love to hang out with you.  Just be prepared to get schooled 3 ways from Sunday when you step on a dance floor.  It'll be good for you.  The bottom line is if you're gonna keep doing this thing, traveling is the next step.  You give the impression of practicing and training way too hard not to include this critical component. 

So, stop feeding the gobbledegook.  There's no expensive equipment to buy or classes to pay for or any etc. for that matter.  At the current juncture in time, our art has not been monetized.  It's free.  The only payment you have is in the form of respect to your peers and predecessors.  The sort of respect that comes with dragging your ass from South Carolina to where ever and presenting yourself as a student before someone.  That's an agenda worth preserving.

IN THE MEANTIME, if you wanna throw some water under the bridge, then we can start getting up and sessioning.  Difficult and stubborn as we both are, it's silly to have a peer in your own town that you never hang out with.  There just aren't that many of us to spare.  Consider this post my olive branch, no strings attached. 

I've also been talking to Verb about getting up either in Asheville, NC or Knoxville, TN.  Obviously, you're more than welcome to join us if we do.  During the week and on some weekends I will be in Greenville, but Jenny and I now have a place in Asheville.  My goal is to use our place as kind of a central hub to get the southeastern liquid dancers together (whom I've listed below).  Rocky, living the farthest away, I'm hoping to get him to drive to Greenville, and I will drive him from Greenville to Asheville and back.

Knoxville, TN:  Verb
                     I'm hoping there's others I don't know about.
Raleigh, NC:    Tanner
Atlanta, GA:    Rocky
Greenville, SC: YOUR NAME HERE
                     Me
Southeast:      Again hoping there's others I don't know about.
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Re: Some liquid stuff I've been messing with lately
« Reply #14 on: July 18, 2010, 11:35:45 PM »

^ Refract... he actually came up with an incredible tutting concept that translates well into liquid also. Probably one of the craziest things I've ever heard of. Although I haven't seen him in awhile. I know he wants to hang out with more dancers.

But I try and make it out consistently on Sundays although less frequently now. There's other dancers that show up sometimes too. The music sucks but the dance floor is nice and it's dead for the most part so nobody is running into you and you can actually move around.   

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The bottom line is if you're gonna keep doing this thing, traveling is the next step.  You give the impression of practicing and training way too hard not to include this critical component. 

Well today I went and ran a two-a-day. 30 minutes in the morning and a hour tonight. I'm not training for a race or anything. I guess stuff like that doesn't make sense to some people. Why would you do something like that if you weren't competing? I don't know... just to see if I can or something. 

 

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« Reply #15 on: July 19, 2010, 01:36:20 AM »

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The second thing is that one day of experience with all the dancers in our community is more educational and inspirational than all the information and experience you can process by practicing and studying alone at the highest level for 6 months to a year.  Seeing as I live in the same town, believe me when I say I wish it wasn't true, but you can only learn so much about a performing art on the internet.  Feeling, stage presence, proper viewing angles, vibe, tone, setting, the list goes on...there are so many things that just don't translate well on film.

I was just reading liquid metal's blog and he pretty much perfectly summed it up for me.

http://liquidmetaldance.wordpress.com/2010/06/28/looking-elsewhere-youtube-is-our-friend-and-enemy/

Although I disagree about the less access to footage statement. Like I've said before distorted footage has always been a source of inspiration for me as well as poorly written descriptions of concepts or styles. Decayed ideas are a central theme in my dance. In some ways it's like instead of restoring a car with stock parts I'm looking at an old rusty frame and getting a general idea and building my vision of what the car looks like on top of that frame. So you know taking what everyone would consider a disadvantage and flipping the script. Incomplete information and isolation are a breeding ground. In fact it's what made you the best digital liquid dancer in the world for a period of time. Although people will probably try and discredit that statement... it's true.   
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Re: Some liquid stuff I've been messing with lately
« Reply #16 on: July 19, 2010, 07:57:49 AM »

But I try and make it out consistently on Sundays although less frequently now. There's other dancers that show up sometimes too. The music sucks but the dance floor is nice and it's dead for the most part so nobody is running into you and you can actually move around.


You didn't specify where on Sunday.  Also, the new day at Escape is Thursday.  Also, I have a gym membership, and they have two locations.  Pretty sure they wouldn't charge you if you wanted to practice there in the studio.  We could also hit up the park and chill outside.

Well today I went and ran a two-a-day. 30 minutes in the morning and a hour tonight. I'm not training for a race or anything. I guess stuff like that doesn't make sense to some people. Why would you do something like that if you weren't competing? I don't know... just to see if I can or something. 


The intensity of your training has nothing to do with your motives for dancing.  The only reason I press this issue on you is because travel and participation would produce the best results for you much like a more well-rounded diet.  Your reasons as to why are yours and yours alone to answer.

I'll add that I think if you opened up to some of these experiences you, like some other people in this culture, could be a source of inspiration for those who would find these arts. 
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Re: Some liquid stuff I've been messing with lately
« Reply #17 on: July 25, 2010, 02:10:23 AM »



I was just reading liquid metal's blog and he pretty much perfectly summed it up for me.

http://liquidmetaldance.wordpress.com/2010/06/28/looking-elsewhere-youtube-is-our-friend-and-enemy/

Although I disagree about the less access to footage statement. Like I've said before distorted footage has always been a source of inspiration for me as well as poorly written descriptions of concepts or styles. Decayed ideas are a central theme in my dance. In some ways it's like instead of restoring a car with stock parts I'm looking at an old rusty frame and getting a general idea and building my vision of what the car looks like on top of that frame. So you know taking what everyone would consider a disadvantage and flipping the script. Incomplete information and isolation are a breeding ground. In fact it's what made you the best digital liquid dancer in the world for a period of time. Although people will probably try and discredit that statement... it's true.

Thank you so much for the kind words. My newest Looking Elsewhere deals with the benefits of obscure, forgotten styles. It's in our self-interest not to dance like everyone else, even if that seems easier. I hope you find this entry sums up your thoughts, too.

http://liquidmetaldance.wordpress.com/2010/07/24/looking-elsewhere-the-road-less-travelled/
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« Reply #18 on: July 25, 2010, 09:54:20 AM »

You didn't specify where on Sunday.   

oh sorry blu martini but I'm going to be out of town till the end of august though so I won't be out there for awhile
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Re: Some liquid stuff I've been messing with lately
« Reply #19 on: August 10, 2010, 08:31:15 PM »

Why are the original videos private now?
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