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LiquidWave32

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Black IS a fuckin' color!
« on: May 15, 2009, 04:47:47 PM »

I got into a huge argument with a student and art teacher about the color black. I said that black was a color cause I could see it. If I see black and can differentiate it from something like blue, white, red, or yellow,then it's a color, though it may not be the color everybody sees when in a certain area being looked at by somebody is different physical makeup, it was still a color. They told there is a differentiation between light and pigment generated colors, but one idea I had trouble wording was that with the pigment idea,there were still chemical makeups in which light could be reflected off it, so long as there was an object in which light could be reflected off of its chemical makeup, there was light induced color. To say that the color black as a pigment is not true black or that it doesn't follow the same spectrum as light induced colors or that light does not effect the color of the object that is pigmented is to basically say that light doesn't reflect off it, but if you look at a glob of paint or dye on a painting tray, you'll see the white shine from the white light reflecting off the paint/dye. Therefore light is reflecting off the object, and since light is reflecting off the object(the paint)there is color, because color is, as scientific theory puts forth, the reflection and refraction of light off an object, so long as the light is hitting the object, the light is determining the color you see before you. However, to say that white is all the colors mixed together and that the light from the sun is "white light" and that black is the absence of light and therefore the absence of color is to jump to the conclusion that the human visual spectrum and perception of light is the absolute way. Some animals and humans see colors differently, the so called white light may appear a different color to other creatures. Whose to say that their perceptions of what we see as green as some other color isn't actually the absolute spectrum. When they see a rainbow, they may see grey,black,turqoise, and purple. Whose to say that their visual spectrum is not the absolute one. And not only, why do we even NEED an absolute spectrum? Who gives us the right to say that it's wrong or flawed of somebody's nature to see black as white or yellow as green, or red as blue. Because our society has built itself on the physical structure of a single group/class. If me, that student, and my art teacher were the only three in the nation who see the black, white, red, and blue the way we do, we would be the "color-blind ones"
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Re: Black IS a fuckin' color!
« Reply #1 on: May 15, 2009, 04:50:35 PM »

whoah there sparky.  nothing to get upset about here. :P
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Re: Black IS a fuckin' color!
« Reply #2 on: May 15, 2009, 05:03:12 PM »

if black is the absence of color, then what is clear? did i just blow your mind or what? O____.
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Re: Black IS a fuckin' color!
« Reply #3 on: May 15, 2009, 05:04:10 PM »

if black is the absence of color, then what is clear?

used to be my favourite colour, until i found this:

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Re: Black IS a fuckin' color!
« Reply #4 on: May 15, 2009, 05:07:34 PM »

try and think of a color that doesn't exist!
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Re: Black IS a fuckin' color!
« Reply #5 on: May 15, 2009, 05:11:37 PM »

try and think of a color that doesn't exist!

oh man, you're mean.  hopefully i remember this on my next date with lucy.
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Re: Black IS a fuckin' color!
« Reply #6 on: May 15, 2009, 05:14:12 PM »

try and think of a color that doesn't exist!

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Re: Black IS a fuckin' color!
« Reply #7 on: May 15, 2009, 05:50:12 PM »

if black is the absence of color, then what is clear? did i just blow your mind or what? O____.


I wanted to tell them that, but I was just so tired(haven't eaten anything all day) I just avoided it.



i noticed that if you mix tons upon tons of colors, you'll eventually get black, but you cannot mix ANY amount of or shades of primary colors and get white. Yet white is considered the mixture of all colors where as black is the absence of it. trippy.
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Re: Black IS a fuckin' color!
« Reply #8 on: May 15, 2009, 07:24:28 PM »

explain how the colour blue looks like 8)
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Re: Black IS a fuckin' color!
« Reply #9 on: May 15, 2009, 07:38:43 PM »

black is weird cause it's true that when you take away all the light in an enclosed space, you see nothing but black, and in that sense black is the absence of light, but what about black pigmentation(paint and dye)? The fact that you can see the white light shining off a "black" object and it still looks black, shows that black is fully capable of existing in the presence of no light. Black can be created with OR without light. Black's absence of light or independence from white makes it merely a different type of color. You can't say paint follows a different law of the spectrum of color, cause pigmentation as in paint may be more ink or fluid, but is still capable of being hit by white light from the sun, and therefore the color you see of the paint, in accordance to the light theory on color, is how the light reflects off it. So, the fact that black is capable of being created both in and outside of white light shows that the white light of the sun is not the only source of color and that some colors are capable of existing beyond the spectrum of white light. Though, so far, we have only discovered black.
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